1st November 2006

Salisbury,

Wiltshire,

England, UK

Key:

MOA            -        Managed Open Access at Stonehenge

EH               -        English Heritage

CONTINUING DISCUSSION OF MOA FOR THE SUMMER SOLSTICE 2007

CLICK HERE ... YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!We were introduced to the Wiltshire Constabulary representative Charlie Dibble. Tim commented, what many were thinking, that it was a delight it was to be joined on the RT by Officer Dibble to which Officer Dibble was given a rousing round of applause although Brian Viziondanz did ask "Who's Officer Charlie Dibble?" to the amazement of some! (I do hope Charlie Dibble has a sense of humour otherwise I could be in Big Trouble!! Especially if he clicks the image on the left!)
And then it was down to the business in hand
J


Planning meeting discussion for the MOA in 2007

Having provided Peter (EH) with details of why the Sunset was Spiritually significant (See the Minutes for October 2006) EH as well as our representative Roy, took four options which were discussed by the 'Planning Meeting Committee', for the opening/closing times for MOA 2007:

1.     No Change, i.e. the car park to open at 8:00 pm (20:00 hrs) BST and open the monument field at 10.00 pm (22:00 hours) BST on the 20th June. With the monument field closing at 9:00 am (09:00 hours) BST and the car park field to close at 1:00 pm (13:00 hours) BST on the 21st June.

2.     Open the car park and monument field two hours earlier than MOA in 2006, i.e. the car park to open at 6:00 pm (18:00 hrs) BST and open the monument field at 8:00 pm (20:00 hours) BST on the 20th June.

3.     Open the car park one hour earlier, i.e. 7:00 pm (19:00 hrs) BST and open the monument field 1 and a half hours earlier at 8:30 pm (20:30 hours) BST on the 20th June with the monument field and car park closing one hour earlier, i.e. the monument field closing at 8:00 am (08:00 hours) BST and the car park field to close at 12 noon (12:00 hours) BST on the 21st June.

4.     Open the car park one hour earlier, i.e. at 7:00 pm (19:00 hrs) BST, but keep the monument field opening time at 10:00 pm (22:00 hours) BST on the 20th June, with the monument field closing time remaining unchanged at 9:00 am (09:00 hours) BST on the 21st June.

Results of the planning meeting for the MOA in 2007

Peter (EH) reported that the planning meeting were in favour of option 1, i.e. maintaining the status quo with the MOA times remaining unchanged. However they saw benefits in opening earlier. Most parties at the planning meeting committee considered moving all the timings one hour to be of possible benefit. However, option 3) was decided upon as the preferred option, with the car park opening one hours earlier and the monument field opening one and a half hours earlier at 8:30 pm (20:30 hours) BST, thereby increasing the total time inside the stones by 30 minutes to eleven and a half hours.

Peter (EH) said that these new MOA times for 2007 would be published on the EH Web site, as EH has done in previous years.

Roy confirmed that the sunset at Stonehenge for the Summer Solstice would be at 9:26 pm (19:26 hours) BST so that the monument field would be open almost an hours before sunset, allowing visitors the "Visual Sunset inside and around the stones".

Catherine, Rollo, Susanna and many others agreed that these earlier opening times would bring benefits and Tim said that opening the car park and monument field would make everything more manageable because the high density of visitors who wait for the car park gates to open so they can access the monument field would be doing so in daylight and therefore the walk across the field between the car park and the monument field would be in daylight for all these early visitors.

Brian Viziondanz said that he preferred option 2) and he saw option 3) as "achieving nothing"

Peter (EH) said he was disappointed in Brian Viziondanz's comments, (given the positive reaction to most other RT Members) and reminded Brian Viziondanz that the 'Planning Meeting' had preferred option 1) where nothing was changed at all and in fact all the other agencies on the Planning Meeting Committee had asked EH "Why change it at all?", because changing and in particular extending the times that the car park and monument were open did increase the level of funding needed for the MOA.

Officer Dibble agreed and explained that 'moving the window' did not cause too much hassle, but if the access was made longer this would cause an 'over-run' on the amount of hours worked by his officers and therefore Wiltshire Constabulary would have to use the 'Mutual Aid' programme where officers from other forces would be drafted in to cover these longer hours. However, under this programme it is not possible to draft in officers from another for force for an hour or two. They have to be brought in for a full shift and this would add at least another £14,000 to policing costs. Other agencies such as the Fire and Ambulance Departments would likewise be affected.

Brian Viziondanz asked that if these costs were covered this "would not be a problem?"* However, the reply from Peter (EH) and Officer Dibble is that as well as the 'Financial Factors', there was also far wider reaching implications including the impact on the local community and on commuters by the road closures which would need to be extended if the car park and monument field was open longer. In addition, on the 21st June around 500 visitors arrive between 4:00 pm and closing (i.e. after MOA has ended, the field had been cleared of rubbish and can be reopened to the public) so that EH has an obligation not to disappoint these visitors.

Tim asked for a show of hands on proposal 3) and the vast majority of RT Members voted in favour. The exceptions being Brian Viziondanz and two guests who no doubt felt unqualified to vote either way.

Although the car park will open one hours earlier than in 2006 Peter (EH) felt that the 2006 road closure time of 4:00 pm (16:00 hrs) BST on the 20th June, 2007 could still be maintained so that traffic would not be affected. However, with the monument field and car park both closing one hour earlier than in 2006 the aim would be that the road closure could be lifted hopefully earlier than 4:00 pm (16:00 hrs) BST on 21st June, 2007.

*However, if Brian Viziondanz were to come up with concrete proposals for how these additional costs would be covered in the future they would be discussed by RT Meeting, as any serious proposal is.

Hoped for changes and improvements which will be possible in part due to the earlier opening times

Phil thought that being allowed into the monument field was a positive step and that visitors may well split into two groups. These who come specifically for the sunset and those who come for the sunrise. Mark agreed and said that he hoped this would encourage more families to come for the sunset (so that they could then take their children home for school etc the following day).

Tim said that it would also be beneficial for the Peace Stewards', 'Magic Stewards' (see below) and EH Stewards  because the crowds would build up in daylight, rather than as in previous years (except 2001) when visitors cannot enter the monument field until after dark.

Roy recalled 2001, when access was granted for the sunset as well as the sunrise where there was no 'transition' so that the challenge would be to try and keep the MOA more "Spiritual and Profound". (For more details on this please see The RT Minutes for October 2006).

Other Groups to be involved to participate - update

Catherine reported that she had written a draft copy of the letter to be sent to all broad based Pagan and Spiritual Groups. Catherine offered to do at the last RT Meeting (October 2006). Catherine had sent this to EH and she commented that she was disappointed not to have received a reply from EH before this meeting. EH assured Catherine that they will be sending her suggested 'updates' for this letter once there has been more discussion about what these groups are being invited to participate in (see below).

Peter (EH) said that he was looking for commitment from RT members who put forward proposals so that when he took these ideas to the 'Planning Meeting Committee' he was sure that these proposals would happen if accepted.

 Sunset Ceremony

Rollo mentioned the 'Magic Stewards' seen in the earlier years of MOA. He has the list of 200 - 300 people who could be contacted and invited to participate in a 'Sunset' Ceremony' before dark.

Frank said that it was important that there was "Interest and enthusiasm outside the Stones" which gained much agreement as did Frank's comment that obviously these ideas had to be responsible ones which were followed through.

Susanna suggested that there should be a 'performance space' where young bards and other musicians could perform and that other groups such as Morris Dancers and performance artists should be invited. Susanna reported that she was already networking to make them aware of this idea. Susanna also commented that many Druids had stopped attending the Summer Solstice at Stonehenge because there was "No Focus".

Rollo suggested that those people who did agree to come and participate in various forms of performance and ceremony could be summarised in a flyer which those involved in arranging these activities could put together into a timetabled flyer to be given out to visitors as they arrive.

With respect to 'performance space' Fee, supported by Roy raised the matter discussed at the October 2006 RT Meeting that although it did mean introducing 'infrastructure' there should be 'tea tents' where some of the 'performance spaces' could be located, particularly during the hours of darkness. For more information on the 'tea tents' proposal please read T RT Minutes for October 2006.

Brian (EH) said that one of their focuses for MOA in 2007 would be to try to improve the visitor experience by cutting down the 'anti-social' activities such as people urinating on fences and hedges.

Catering

Brian Viziondanz asked when the catering would be decided. Peter (EH) said that had just appointed a new caterer for Stonehenge and was discussing with them what they could provide for the MOA. Tim said that RT Members should be able to have a say in what we would like to see provided by the Catering Company and Peter (EH) accepted this. If the Catering Company can not provide all the requirements, as in previous years other caterers will be invited to apply (subject to meeting Health and Safety Criteria).

Roy invited suggestions to be sent to himself, Catherine and Fee who could 'capture these ideas' to be brought to the RT and therefore to EH. Peter requested that Roy, Catherine and Fee arrive one hour earlier than the start of the next RT Meeting on 10th January, 2007 to specifically brief him with the ideas and suggestions, prior to the start of the RT Meeting itself.

Your input is Requested!

Feedback, on catering, the idea of 'tea tents' and what sort of performances/activities/ceremonies you would like to see is appreciated by all who read this. If you would like to be involved in 2007 also get in touch with details. Please use the 'Email us' link in the bottom frame of this web site. No Bottom Frame? Enter the Main Site by visiting http://Stonehenge.MercuryMoon.co.uk

Clearing the stones

Brain Viziondanz felt that when it is time to go this comes as a "Harsh reality" to some people inside the stones. He felt that all EH Stewards should be better briefed to ask people to leave "more gently". While Peter (EH) accepted Brian Viziondanz's point, he felt that the stewards had a "Huge Tolerance" in the face of abuse from some people who simply did not want to leave the stones. Susanna agreed that there is a small minority who have an 'anti-authoritarian' attitude, which Tim fully agreed with, having been a peace steward helping to ask people to leave for some years.

Peter (EH) also made the valid point that the MOA has made huge advances in that no police are now used to help clear the stones. He requested that more Peace Stewards help to ask people nicely to leave the stones. Roy asked Peter (EH) to inform all EH Stewards that the Peace Stewards are there to help so that the Peace Stewards are respected by EH Security. Roy also asked people specifically to instruct all EH Stewards and Security that they must be careful not to appear to "look down on people". Peter (EH) agreed that this would be done.

Shamus said that people may not know the time and therefore the fact that it was time to leave may come as a surprise to some visitors. He suggested that a signal could be given; possibly using the public address system to give prior warning. Catherine suggested that Peace Stewards should work in the stones thirty minutes before the end of MOA to give people warning that it was nearly time to go. Roy said that in previous years he and Helen the Hat had done this.

Frank suggested that as well as having a 'structured opening' with a Sunset Ceremony perhaps there should be a 'Formal Ending' with a Procession. Tim said that at the Winter Solstice and Spring Equinox a 'Formal Ending Procession' could be performed to see how it worked.

Climbing on the  Stones

As he did last year Brian Viziondanz raised the possibility of stationing stewards at all climbing points for the entire duration of the MOA to prevent anyone climbing the stones. It was discussed last year and agreed that it would be provocative to have EH Stewards at these points. Roy, who has tried doing this himself said how difficult it is to be 'on duty' in this role for the entire MOA.  Roy, with the agreement of a number of other RT Members suggested that as Brian Viziondanz was so keen on the idea of stewards stationed at each climbing point during the entire duration of the MOA, he should organise a 'Team' of stewards, set up a rota and ensure that it happens!


Grand Eisteddfod Update

Rollo reported that he had written to the Culture Minister on 29th September, 2006 and had received a reply. He assured everyone that we will be kept up to date with developments. Read the RT Minutes for October 2006 for more information


New 7 Wonders

The RT was told of the visit by the New 7 Wonders 'Roadshow' on the 17th October (see our own photos and video by visiting the 'News' Page). Fee suggested to Peter that EH Should include details of the worldwide poll, because the visitors were obviously interested in Stonehenge and would therefore very likely vote for it within their own 'Top 7'. Peter (EH) agreed that this was a good idea and said that the web address for the New 7 Wonders (www.New7Wonders.com) would be included in the next print-run of the literature which is given to all visitors to Stonehenge upon their arrival. It was also suggested that we all need to publicise this vote at the Winter Solstice 2006, Spring Equinox, 2007 and Summer Solstice 2007.

Peter reported that he had been told that there would be a 'Live Link-up' on the day that the 'top 7' were announced with all the twenty one finalists. This was expected to be at 9:00 pm (21:00 hours) European Time (as the announcement will be made in Lisbon which is 'neutral'). 


The Next RT Meeting

Next Round Table Meeting date was set for the 10th January 2007

Love, Light and Peace

Fee (Mercury Moon) Warner

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